Joan used to work with Lane, so I guess that now she will also have his administrative duties. Maybe she'll have her hands so full next season that we'll have a new Office Manager (if so, I would love the job to go to Dawn, so we could see more of her. Lane said in the premiere that he didn't trust any of the secretaries they already had...)
In regards to Sal's firing, Roger put it best "If Lee Garner, JR wants you fired, you're fired". Lucky Strike was the main bloodline of the company, and losing them over a misunderstanding like what occured would have ruined them, and harmed their reputation, which would have influenced other clients.
I'm not by any stretch trying to say it was okay that Salvatore was fired. I love him. More in reference to the Lois issue though, I just think it's a lot easier for them to brush the incident off as a woman's mistake. But also, there was never much aftermath shown so it's pretty much all speculation. And of course it's important to consider the fact that Roger has some fierce need to please Lucky Strike, and clearly is perfectly okay with doing anything it takes to make that happen.
Doesn't Mad amen have a pattern of not falling into the cliche social issue plots that always are in 1960s-set dramas? The issues are important, yes, but that kind of television makes for shallow character development because they are only defined by their sexuality or ethnicity or gender. Mad Men has touched on them all briefly (of course, gender, with the women, race, with Dawn, and Salvatore's brief stint) but not enough to make the show cheesy and typical, which I love.
In response to the Anon about Salvatore being fired-- I actually believe that was a good directorial decision. and imo Salvatore wasn't very dimensional, and to me his leaving represented the shift from traditional ads into television ads. So it would have been better to leave in a secretary who doesn't have a main part to make room for one of today's main characters than to try and eke out a plot in that complicated web for Salvatore. Boy I do miss that whole Bye Bye Birdie arch, though!
your response made no sense, sorry. What do they have to lose by firing a secretary? That wasnt the first time a client had been unhappy, and they could have just found new ways to please Lee Garner Jr. someone having to get an amputation is not a "stupid" mistake. wow. Also, no one knew about Salvatore's sexuality except for Don.
To the anon who mentioned Lois having a job versus Savatore's firing - I think it's a statement as to the mindset of the men in power. They can forgive a woman for making a stupid mistake, likely because at the time it was natural to simply think less of most women in general, however, they can't get past Salvatore's nature, because for the time it was so unacceptable in society and they didn't know how to deal with such a difference in male characteristics.
When it comes down to it, Mad Men had a much better season than BrBa, and it should win. And I would still say the top three best shows are The Sopranos, The Wire, and Mad Men. The style of BrBa doesn't fit with those others. Those are character based shows that aren't typically plot driven like BrBa is.
I don't think Mad Men deserves to win this year. I have two episodes left and to be honest I expected A LOT more from season 5. I hope Boardwalk Empire wins, Season 2 was great. Downton Abbey and Game of Thrones are overrated shows, in my opinion. Season 2 from both shows really disappointed me.
Has no one else wondered why Lois still has a job after hacking off someone's leg, but Salvatore was fired because Roger was in a bad mood? By far one of the worst directoral decisions this show has ever made.
There have only been three television shows that have been called the "best of all time". Two of them are The Wire and The Sopranos. The third is Breaking Bad. Even if the new season of the show pales in comparison to say, previous seasons, the long running history and well established fan base for BB makes it a far better competitor than DA
I'm a huge January Jones and Elisabeth Moss fan so I definitely would have liked more concentration on both of them this season, but I thought the Megan story line made a lot of sense in the season and turned out a lot better than I had anticipated...I hated the twist at the end of last season when Don decided to marry her, but actually ended up being okay with it and thought it brought out an interesting side to Don. I'm surprised so many people don't like her.
I do feel slightly vindicated that Emmy voters were making a statement that they were not as enamored with Megan as Matt was or even some critics who went a little overboard. It was AMC's decision to put her in lead and hopefully they got the message. Everyone prefers the core cast at this point.
They also seem to think that Jim Parsons is a better actor than Adam Scott or Nick Offerman. Grain of salt. Elisabeth Moss is brilliant but Jessica Pare was fantastic this year, too. And in way more scenes.
I wouldn’t know anything about the comedy categories but like I explained to the previous anon, it doesn’t matter who has the most scenes. They’re judged on a singular episode. I think Jessica Pare was fantastic, too.
but it doesn't change that fact that the category is best leading actress, not best superior actress. Megan was a lead character, whether jessica was better than elizabeth or not.
Yes, but like I explained yesterday, when actors submit themselves for an award, they get to submit one episode and that is what they’re judged on; that one single episode. If Elisabeth Moss is gunning for Lead Actress, she’s going to submit a Peggy centered episode. And then it doesn’t matter if she’s second to Megan in the remaining 12 episodes.
I love(d) Peggy- I think she is a great character and I have loved watching her develop, however in the recent series I have started to like her less and less. I feel like she has become bitter and whiney. I'm glad she moved on to a better job as SCDP was not allowing her to fulfil her full potential but I found her so irritating this season! What do you think?
aw, i LOVED her this season. i always liked her, but it was a bit more of an “ehh” take it or leave it sort of a like for the first few seasons, rather than her being one of my favourites. (then again, my favourite is pete, so…!) i definitely think she’ll be able to thrive in a new environment. i also think she’s slowly becoming the real HBIC.
I think it's high time that a Mad Men talent takes away an acting award. And if I were to choose, I would want Christina Hendricks to win; 'The Other Woman' was the best episode, in my opinion, of the entire show. This show has relatively similar men thrust into different circumstances and settings but the woman, they are wholly different. And that episode shows how ultimately, Don could not control Megan, or Peggy or Joan. Powerful stuff.
I'm surprised Jessica Pare wasn't nominated, Megan was for sure featured more than Peggy this season, why do you think she wasn't? also echoing the person said that vincent kartheser should've been nominated this year.
Because Elisabeth Moss is by far a stronger actress than Jessica Pare. She may have been a little overly ambitious when she submitted herself for Lead Actress. Like I said yesterday, if she’d gone for Supporting she would’ve had a better shot.
I can't even find it in myself to really care about the other nominations because I'm so disappointed that Vincent Kartheiser wasn't nominated. He consistently blew me away this season - it takes a lot of courage to play such a fundamentally repugnant character with so much humanity and so sympathetically. Even as I was thinking "what an awful little twerp, he deserves anything bad that happens to him", I'd sympathize w/him despite myself. I really feel he should have gotten a nod this year.
Re: BB, Aaron Paul frames it as not technically their last, since this "season" comprises 16 episodes and 8 will be aired this year, and 8 next year, airing around the same time (July), at least according to his interview on Nerdist.
I love Mad Men, but I honestly feel like they have really tough competition from season 4 of Breaking Bad.
Season 4 was sooo good but I think there’s a possibility they might save all the BB awards for next year since the current season is their last. Go out with a bang, you know? That said, I want to discuss Sunday’s episode with someone.