I think it's high time that a Mad Men talent takes away an acting award. And if I were to choose, I would want Christina Hendricks to win; 'The Other Woman' was the best episode, in my opinion, of the entire show. This show has relatively similar men thrust into different circumstances and settings but the woman, they are wholly different. And that episode shows how ultimately, Don could not control Megan, or Peggy or Joan. Powerful stuff.
I'm surprised Jessica Pare wasn't nominated, Megan was for sure featured more than Peggy this season, why do you think she wasn't? also echoing the person said that vincent kartheser should've been nominated this year.
Because Elisabeth Moss is by far a stronger actress than Jessica Pare. She may have been a little overly ambitious when she submitted herself for Lead Actress. Like I said yesterday, if she’d gone for Supporting she would’ve had a better shot.
I can't even find it in myself to really care about the other nominations because I'm so disappointed that Vincent Kartheiser wasn't nominated. He consistently blew me away this season - it takes a lot of courage to play such a fundamentally repugnant character with so much humanity and so sympathetically. Even as I was thinking "what an awful little twerp, he deserves anything bad that happens to him", I'd sympathize w/him despite myself. I really feel he should have gotten a nod this year.
Re: BB, Aaron Paul frames it as not technically their last, since this "season" comprises 16 episodes and 8 will be aired this year, and 8 next year, airing around the same time (July), at least according to his interview on Nerdist.
I love Mad Men, but I honestly feel like they have really tough competition from season 4 of Breaking Bad.
Season 4 was sooo good but I think there’s a possibility they might save all the BB awards for next year since the current season is their last. Go out with a bang, you know? That said, I want to discuss Sunday’s episode with someone.
I’m SO happy for Jared Harris. That is awesome. Would loved to have seen Vinnie get a nod, he’s just been consistently excellent. While I think Jon and Elisabeth should win every year, I’m a bit “mad” at Matthew Weiner for not giving them a proper showcase episode. Both, though deserve to win, probably won’t because they didn’t have a knockout storyline in season 5. All of the focus was left to Megan Draper…sighhhhh. Oh, and Christina will win this year and break the Mad Men acting curse.
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I hope they all get nommed and sweep the Drama category or something, like past years. Before watching the show, I wondered, 'Why MM?' but being in the middle of season 2, I know why! Crossing my fingers for all of them.
Jon is pretty much a given at this point, as is Elisabeth. I think Jessica would have had a greater chance to score a nod if she’d submitted for supporting actress! Crossing my fingers for John and Christina, too. I think January handled the little screentime she was given beautifully so I’m rooting for her too but it seems highly unlikely.
Don is not a good dad. Would a good dad try to abandon his kids as many times as Don has tried to abandon his? Would a good dad treat the mother of his children as badly as Don treats Betty? And Don hasn't taken any responsibility at all for what a bad husband he was to Betty. The hypocritical lecture he gave Pete on infidelity made that very obvious.
If Betty was no longer integral to the show then she would have been written off by now, wouldn't she? And I don't know how anyone can say that a teenager like Sally and a former SCDP employee like Peggy are integral to the show but Betty isn't.
Was. Betty WAS an integral character. In my opinion, at least. I am perfectly happy to see next-to-nothing of her next season. We get enough domestic-life storylines via Megan, Pete, Peggy, and even Ken now, and that's fine by me. Don's current wife is Megan, most of the focus should be on her, you know? I can understand having Betty still around, but only in the context of her being Sally's mother. I just don't see what more there could be for her to offer, plot development-wise...
So Peggy has finally moved up and out from Sterling-Cooper (yeah I know the official name is something else...but it's too long for me to remember). Now I'm wondering what lies ahead for her character in the upcoming seasons. I love Elizabeth Moss; but Mad Men revolves a lot around the daily ins and outs of that one office. What are your thoughts in regards to how her role on the show will change this upcoming season?
man, i have no real idea. i personally want to see her shining the way she was never able to at SCDP. i want her to be “the new don”, something like that. it’s weird, i don’t hate him as a character (i think everyone can relate to him in one way or another) but the more the series has gone on, the less i’ve liked him. more peggy, i hope she scores an account and don fails.
I think Betty is a good mom. You know, everyone seems to forget that in the sixties, things were done differently. Maybe she didn't seem that involved, but she cared about her children. There was no such thing as 'attachment parenting' back then. I don't even know what that is...
betty completely cares about her kids. it’s natural to run into somebody you see every second of every day (outside of school) like in sally and betty’s case. i still love that even though she complains all the time, like most teenagers do, she still wanted her mum at the end of the day.
Regarding your post, Don knows he was a bad husband to Betty, and I hope viewer know that and know that he’s right about that. Being bad in your first marriage doesn’t mean you’ll be bad in your second. We do start looking at this marriage after a few years, and we don’t know what happened before. Don owns what he did, Betty owns her reactions to that; Betty owns what she did, and Don owns his reactions. Of course, what you do and how you react is partly based on things life has done to you, but you’re still responsible for you. One of Betty’s decisions was that she’s going to find happiness in her husband, and that can’t work.
Don is a good dad. He’s a good 1960s dad. A dad today would be in the delivery room, change diapers, and be very hands on. That’s not what most Americans did back in the 1960s — and maybe all the children raised in the 1960s turned out horribly. I won’t presume to know that. He’s not Mister Rogers. Imaging Don as a stay-at-home dad is like imaging all the women who put tissues in the basket of kisses as little Margaret Thatchers; it’s not possible they’d take on that role.
Anyway. Don’s done with Betty, and vice versa.
don is a good father, but my curiosity stems from the idea that he might not be the way he is if he had the kids 24/7. he’s like a “cool aunt” at this point. doesn’t mean he loves them any less, but it’s a lot easier to like a parent you don’t butt heads with every day. and also, just to play on the fact it was the 60’s, i don’t think betty felt she could have her own decisions. especially after the things her mother ‘taught’ her in regards to what a lady should be.
I remember discussing Mad Men with somebody around a year ago. She was one of those people who couldn’t stop putting Betty down, making Don out to be a stalwart, trustworthy individual. (Despite the drinking, the affairs, monitoring Betty’s progress with her psychiatrist and generally being thrilled when things outside of being the ‘perfect’ mother and wife fell flat.) She said the usual things. You know, Betty is a terrible mother, look at everything she has and she’s still bitter, etc. Eventually, she saw the error of her ways. A third run through of the season and she realised how much Betty’s personality was a byproduct of how unhappy she was. I know that can be argued for every character on the show, as well as everybody on the mortal coil who thinks too much, so Don too, but I specifically remember her saying, “Don is good with his kids, though. He is.” And yeah, he is. But he also only has to spend a couple of days with them, then they go back home, and when they all lived together, he saw them a couple of hours per day. Anyway, I’m wondering if this was nowadays, and say, hypothetically, Betty was a working mother and Don a stay-at-home dad, whether he’d be any “better”? I feel like he would give them that look. The Don look; the one he gives when he’s displeased with something not going his way; the curl in his lip, you know the one. Then he would storm up to his room to watch birds.
Just some thoughts to keep things going through this hiatus, please keep submitting your opinions and anything you want!
Everyone's giving their two cents on Don/Megan/Betty next season so I'd just like to say how awesome it would be if Don tried it on with Betty and she knocked him back, that would be the ultimate show of progression from Betty's character. It'd also leave Don to think about his actions for once
it would make me sad to see Betty go back to Don, even for an affair. He has hurt and betrayed her so many times, she's better off without him, and she and Henry seem to have a much healthier relationship